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Ric Murphy
13th April 2007, 19:38
Greetings all,
Been browsing this site for a few weeks now and became a member just the other day. Thought I’d take a minute or 2 and introduce myself to everyone (hope I’m not too long winded but people are to read anyway aren’t they?).
I’m an ex factory worker (the last 23 years in automotive wiring harnesses and DC electrical systems). I live in Southwestern Ontario, Canada on my families 60 acre century farm. 2 years ago I decided to take up farming and left the plant. Due to depressed crop prices we had to consider some alternatives to conventional farming. First decision was to go organic, second was to include vegetables with the cash crops. In order to procure an adequate supply of organic vegetable seedlings we also erected a greenhouse. Considerations for the greenhouse included heat, electricity and irrigation. Having a long history of interest in RE energy as well as sustainable living I contemplated how I could tie those into the greenhouse. With all of this so new to me, I had no real data to use for planning purposes. I had no idea what the req’d Kwh’s/day would be, or the BTU’s req’d to heat basically a large plastic tent all winter, or how many gallons/day of irrigation water I’d need. So (flying by the seat of my pants) I first buried a 750gal water tank under the greenhouse. I plumbed all the main and drip gutters into this tank. I filled it in Nov of 2005 when we completed the greenhouse and have not had to bring in a drop of water since. Last summer we washed vegetables, tractors and anything else around here and still never ran out (although we came very close once). We had a very wet season here last year though so I suspect I will at some point have to bring in water. I think a 1000g storage tank would have been more appropriate now. For heat I chose a 110,000btu corn furnace figuring we’d grow the corn ourselves. Last winter I averaged 3.75 bushels per day (@ about $3.00/bu) and was able to keep the temp above 40f even on the coldest nights. Problem is trying to grow corn organically without all the inputs (fertilizers) conventional farmers use. However I found this furnace also burns rye very well (better than corn in my opinion) and grows very well without any help (actually it’s harder than hell to kill!!!). So that only left electricity. I have grid access but would need uninterrupted supply to maintain the furnace incase of blackouts. I could have went with a generator but thought maybe I’d finally found at least some justification for installing an alternative energy system. I started with a 900w turbine mounted on a 72’ tilt up tower. Tower is 4” pipe built and designed by myself (I did hire a welder to do the critical welds though!!!!). I also purchased 600w of solar along with 7000w of inverters and a 1000ah battery bank. The system is 24v. All the components are housed in an insulated cube van box with the panels mounted on the top. I quickly found that the greenhouse consumption exceeded what this system would produce. In Jan of this year I added another 300w of solar and ordered an additional 300w earlier this week (new capacity will be 1200w). I’m also going to move the panels off the roof and onto an adjustable pole mount for increased output (manual adjust for now). I believe that I will easily be able to exceed the greenhouse demands with the above additions. Only time will tell though. Anyway I’ve likely rambled on enough for my first post…..best save something for another day! Some pictures below of my operation.
Ric
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Mario De Castris
13th April 2007, 22:36
Hello Rick and welcome a board,

I've enjoyed your introduction right up very much, you seem to be well on your way to achieve what you need. I've been producing some power for my house for a couple of years and I am still building my system to reach a total of 25 to 30 kW hour per day. I have put together my own solar tracking mount from parts remaining from the days of the big C band satellite dishes, I found a big increase in production by tracking the sun using the polar tracker. I am attaching a couple of pictures of the mount hoping that could be of some help to you in building your, from one of the pictures you will see that the panel's ar tilted to a funny position, this is due to the polar tracking and the reason for is that any time of day the panel in respect to the sun are always at the same declination.

Mario

Rob Beckers
14th April 2007, 07:31
Welcome to Green Power Talk Ric!
I admire your courage to make such a radical shift in your life...

Nice system setup! There was a question that came to mind: Why does the greenhouse use so much electricity? Heating is by stove. Is this lights? Or pumping water from the tank?

-Rob-

Ric Murphy
14th April 2007, 08:47
Hi Mario,
Thanks for the pix. I actually picked up an old satelite tower and hardware from a buddy a few months ago. After looking it over I wasn't sure if it would be strong enough to handle the wind loads. It's looks identical to yours so I assume it must be. Unfortunately the drives don't appear to be usable. I've heard of up to 40% increase in output with 2 axis auto adjust trackers. I walk by the system about 5 times a day so I figure it'll be no big deal to move the rack manually for now. I would hope to see at least 20% improvement with this method. Since I only change my current roof top mounts twice a year (winter and summer angles) maybe I'll see even more of an increase.
Rob,
I have 4 buildings in total connected to my system although the other 3 have minimal usage in the winter. The greenhouse loads are:
3 - ceiling fans running 24/7 on medium speed. I think the draw on each is around 25w
1 - inflator fan. The greenhouse is what they call a "double wall poly" style. A small fan pumps air between the 2 layers of plastic as a form of insulation. The fan has a small draw but again runs 24/7
6 - 23w CFL lights. These are only on if I need to be in the greenhouse after dark which is very seldom
Furnace - the furnace has 3 motors which run as req'd depending on temp setting. One powers the feed auger and another provides air for combustion. These 2 cycle together anywhere from every 5-10 minutes and run for about 60seconds. The 2 together only draw about 100w. The 3rd motor is the main blower (same as a conventional furnace). It draws around 600w at startup and settles down to about 300w. With the furnace on high this fan will run almost continuously at times but usually cycles every 5 minutes on avg and runs for about 3 minutes.
Water pump - 1/2 h jet pump is the largest load but only runs 10 minutes or so/day under normal circumstances.

Unfortunately this past winter my turbine was out of service from late Nov until early Mar (long story) so I missed the 3 windiest months with the least amount of solar potential. So I think my current capacity is very closely matched to my demands if everything is up and running. The additional 300w of solar and the tracker should give me surplus (which I'll have no problems finding a use for!!!)
Ric

Mark Parsons
1st May 2007, 07:00
Hi Ric,

How is the loaner Lakota holding up? Just wondering how long it can live with the wobble.

Regards,
Mark

Ric Murphy
1st May 2007, 15:10
Hi Mark,
We haven't much wind since you were here last Thurs. When I've got time to watch it, it doesn't want to move and when I'm busy it does!!! The few times I have watched didn't seem as bad as the night we put it up. The tail boom seemed pretty stable. Maybe the problem is worst at certain speeds. Will keep an eye on it and likely lower it down in the next few weeks when I have time. First thing I'll check is the balance as you suggested. I'm curious to see how close it is.
Ric