Reduce EMISSIONS by 75-100%

[John Knic]

Everyone can reducce there emissions by 75-100% proven and guarenteed by simply using the mpg cap from ffi. Other benefits are 7-14% increase in mileage improved performance removes and prevents carbon build up and more. So everyone can do there part in reducing emissions and get a 150-250% return on their money, now that's a no brainer to me. That is why I'm using this product For more info go to www.kbnsons.myffi.biz or send a pm to me John at kb_n_sons@hotmail.com and I'll be happy to assist you with any questions or concens. This is you're chance to really make a difference and save money at the pump as well. Don't wait act now to help save the PLANET!!!! Thank you very much for reading this post. Sincerely John Knic....

[Rob Beckers]

A note to readers:

The above message was initially removed from the forum by me, since it is a gratuitous advertisement for a commercial product. However, the author has expressed a sincere interest in reducing air pollution. Something I can sympathize with. This thread is therefore restored, call it "on probation" since it still is a blatant advertisement. This should be viewed as a one-time exception, I have no intention of letting adds take over the forum. In this particular case the reasoning is that there may be value in having a discussion about products like the above one.

-RoB-

[Ralph Day]

Rob,

Thanks for being so vigilant with the forum. The emissionless site is a crock. It reminds me of Jethro Bodine making the Beverly Hillbillie's truck run on water instead of gasoline with a majic pill. The internet is awash with schemes to part us from our money while filling our pockets with money if we invest etc etc ad nauseum.

BTW i installed the new blades on my H80 yesterday. It somewhat removed a shudder i'd noticed the unit manifested at transition speed...100-200watts...where is spends a lot of time. When the tower was down i checked for play in the bearing but couldn't feel any. There was play in the yaw bushing but that's to be expected. I'll eventually get SWWP to send me a replacement bushing.

ralph

[John Knic]

Reducing emissions in my mind is a very good thing to do. I would expect people to be somewhat skeptical towards anyone making claims to reduce emissions by large amounts. Here is a link showing results from independent third party. YouTube - EthosFR Saves Gas or Fuel Freedom International Here is another link lending creditability to the fact it really does reduce the pollution coming out of you're tailpipe YouTube - FFI on CNN and Bravo. Thank you RESPECTFULLY John Knickerbocker

[Stewart Corman]

I have watched both Youtube videos and cannot put my finger on what is really happening, but can make a few educated guesses.

I am a chemical engineer, so this is not rocket science to me.
There is no secret that a "power booster" additive like nitrobenzene will give more hp and lower emissions, since the fuel is burnt more efficiently and hotter ...at a $ cost greater than the mpg benefit. For drag racers ..this was the means to win (If you didn't blow up the engine!)

As far as a "catalyst' ..that's different technology and I cannot see something that is put into the gas tank as having long term effects over the life of the vehicle.... for instance, if it is an old vehicle with carbon deposits .... OK, we burn off the carbon and it should run better for a while ...for a "clean car" out of the factory ...I don't see how it can contribute anything ...

IMHO, Let's put this in a business perspective:
If I were GM and saw a product that could increase the mpg and reduce emissions to satisfy EPA regulations years in advance...I'd buy the company for several $mill and then either use it exclusively as a competitive edge ..or else license the competitors ...it hasn't happened , so I'll presume the product is bogus

Let Consumer Reports show otherwise!
Don't hold your breathe waiting for the article on your newsstand

Stew Corman from sunny Endicott

[John Knic]

That new car from the factory with the clean motor will stay clean because it also prevents carbon build up, and increases the octane rating of pump gas anywhere from .4 -1 full point. Meaning cars requiring a higher octane fuel can now use a lower octane fuel in additon to using the product while lowering emissions. I'm currently getting 40-50 miles extra from every tank saving me $6-9 dollars at every fill up after cost of product. Equally as important is the reduced emissions.

[Jake Rudlong]

I tried this product from one of my friends who is a performance car guy. Before i tried this product my truck didn't get that great of fuel milage and it somked out of the tailpipe. I was skeptial about this product when i first put it in my fuel tank. But since i have been using it i have had a 23% gain in my fuel milage and there is hardly any smoke comming out of my exhaust. This is important for me because it reduces emissions and since i love fishing so much i can enjoy clean water and heathy fish.

[Ralph Day]

Stew

If the process you suspect (hotter burning) is in effect, what might the long term effects be on piston and cylinder components? Anyone know what the design limits are on combustion chambers? How much "over temp" could they take before failure? Any other ideas?

ralph

[Joe Blake]

If there is an increase in combustion temperature, I'd not want to have it in my engine. The engine is designed to run at a certain temperature, and that's it.

Secondly, I think the catalyst "black boxes" in my exhaust system are subject to damage if the exhaust temperature is too high.

Thirdly, it's already within the grasp of the average motorist to reduce their emissions (AND fuel consumption) by moderating their driving habits. I've noticed that people who drive over the speed limit tend to sit at traffic lights for a greater percentage of the cycle since they don't seem to understand that traffic lights are programmed to be most efficient for vehicles at the speed limit.

Lastly, I'd want something a little more transparent than going to YouTube for an authoritative view on these matters.

And in any case, I think that the internal combustion engine's days are very limited and I'm just waiting for battery technology to catch up with the electric motor technology and then I can switch to a volt-mobile.

However, to add to previous comments, Rob, thanks for keeping an eye on the content of the board. In fairness, I think you did the right thing in allowing the "ad" to remain, but I'd much prefer factual information or questions, rather than bald claims of unlikely results. It certainly does the mind good to be reminded that, even if there is some truth in this present claim, that doesn't minimise the number of shysters trying to peddle snake-oil, and a healthy skepticism is very useful.

Joe

[John Knic]

This product is in over 215 countries with over 100,000 distributors worlwide. I think that them are some pretty good factual numbers. Engines are designed to operate within a range of temps, the temp increase is minimal. This product is 100% organic and safe for you're motor and the environment. Until I see electric technology make it's way into semi's -snowmobiles -boats etc... I think I'll stick with the internal combustion motor. Some countries are very pro-active about using the product to save on imported fuel expense and to clean up emissions. Check this out.
Motorists worldwide, just like those now in Zimbabwe, Africa, are experiencing relief from the burden of high fuel cost with a product from Fuel Freedom International called MPG-CAPS (TM) ..

MPG-CAPS (TM) enhance fuel economy with both gasoline and diesel fuel!

MPG-CAPS (TM) are a 100% organic engine conditioner, which when added to a tankful of fuel, simultaneously improves fuel economy and vehicle power .. This increase in economy and power are accomplished by creating a micro-thin coating in the engine's combustion chamber. MPG-CAPS (TM) are safe to both the engine and the environment, and some of the benefits are :



enhanced efficiency of the fuel burn, which delivers a 7% to a 14% (average of 10%) increase in mpg (miles per gallon)



increased environment protection as exhaust emissions are greatly reduced



protection against engine perforation as the detrimental effects of sulphur molecules are inhibited, plus the formation of sludge, varnish, acid and other impurities are retarded



easier engine starts in varying temperatures and environmental conditions leading to smoother, cleaner, and more powerful performance



convenience, just one Caplet is added to 12 to 22 US gallons (45.42 to 83.27 liters) of fuel



Zimbabwe currently spends up to $550 million on fuel imports every month. A 10% savings translates to a savings of about $55 million a month!



Recently when Oil World, an FFi Independent Distributor, launched the use MPG-CAPS (TM) in Zimbabwe, the Minister of Energy and Power Development, Retired Lieutenant-General Mike Nyambuya said, "It is gratifying to note that some companies are working closely with the Government in its current initiatives to turn around the economy. The MPG-CAPS has been listed among the priority products together with jatropha, ethanol and solar, and these are expected to the ease the pressure of foreign currency spending."

Oil World plans to distribute the MPG-CAPS (TM) to countries such as Malawi, Mozambique, Botswana, and South Africa, thus earning precious foreign currency in the process.

Managing Director of Oil World, Mr. Richard Chitakatira, said "We have not been spared from this upward spiral (in oil prices), moreso given the economic challenges that our great nation is facing that have made procurement of fuel a problem. MPG-CAPS (TM) is a product we believe and we are confident will revolutionize the motor industry in Africa and beyond .."








The information above was quoted and paraphrased from articles by ANDnetwork on June 12, 2006

[Joe Blake]

I think I can see this thread going nowhere, but I'll try once more.

I ride motorcycles and have ridden them since about 1968. In 2004 I bought a brand new 250 cc twin cylinder 4 stroke m/cycle, the last of a series of three, all identical I had owned over 6 years. Each cycle averaged about 26-27 km/litre of petrol. This was from a mix of city riding, stop and start, riding single and two-up, country riding at constant, high speed and so forth.

I then felt I needed a bit more performance so I upgraded to a single cylinder 650cc 4 stroke m/cycle. Yes, it gave me much greater performance, it was faster, quicker, quieter but interestingly, even though it had an engine capacity almost three times the previous machines, it gave almost precisely the same fuel consumption 25-27 km/litre. I then bought a later model of the same machine, which gets almost the same consumption - just slightly better - 26-27 km/l.

I should point out here that VERY few cars (even hybrids) can achieve that level of consumption, regardless of their level of performance.

So what makes the difference? Improved engine design. Two spark plugs per cylinder. Electronic fuel control (as opposed to carburettor). Nothing miraculous. Nothing special. Just clever thinking. There's no need for special additives.

As for your stated aim about waiting until electric motors are in semi's ... snowmobiles ... etc. Why are you waiting? They're there already, if you but ask for them.

It's only been a few months since "Killacycle" ( http://www.killacycle.com/) went hurtling down the quarter mile drag strip in just a shade over 8 seconds. According to the website:

We could make 7 or 8 runs without recharging if we wanted. It only takes a few minutes to recharge the pack between runs, so we top it off every time. With the latest PFC-50 charger from Manzanita Micro, we can recharge the bike in just 5 minutes! We only use about 700 w-hrs (about $0.10) of electricity for each round. This includes the burn-out and the more than 2 mile round trip back to the pits!

Personally speaking my electric powered tricycle won't do more than about 24 km/h, but it can tow a 30 kg shopping load about 5-6 km, and it's been running off the sun for over 12 months.

The age of the electric vehicle is HERE and NOW. It just takes the desire to enter it.

Joe

[Laurie Forbes]

Just happened upon this thread.

My vote is snake oil. If it were that easy to improve mileage and by so much, manufacturers and governments would be all over it (no, I don't believe the oil companies would buy up the patents). I seem to recall a similar product for diesel fuel called IIRC Diesel Secret (also snake oil BTW).

There's one born every minute and 10 to take their money........