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Wilco Vercoelen
4th March 2007, 16:18
Does anyone have experience with ULSD - Ultra-Low Sulphur Diesel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_low_sulphur_diesel?
Any input is welcome.
Thanks.

Paul Bailey
5th March 2007, 07:01
Does anyone have experience with ULSD - Ultra-Low Sulphur Diesel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_low_sulphur_diesel?
Any input is welcome.
Thanks.

For What application.????:)

Wilco Vercoelen
5th March 2007, 18:14
Efficiency, mileage and polution reduction for cars and trucks.

Paul Bailey
5th March 2007, 18:41
If you are in California, all diesel was 15 ppm sulfur in 2006. Almost 100% of ON ROAD diesel is 15 ppm now. NON-ROAD diesel is transitioning to 500 ppm in 2007, except for certain exclusions, which will last until 2010. 15 ppm diesel will be everywhere, for all non-heating, in 2014.

Since EPA does not regulate sulfur content in heating oil, the above sulfur numbers don't apply. Separate storage is a numbers game, so most heating oil (except for the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic, & Alaska) will probably be 500 ppm diesel by 12/1/07. Northeast, Mid-Atlantic, & Alaskan heating product will probably continue on its merry way.

#2 is #2

Diesel is clear so that the DOT can tell if truckers are using home heating oil which is not taxed.

diesel is always more expensive due to the road tax

Home heating oil is diesel with a red dye (auto trans fluid) for detection

Diesel is a derivitive of crude manufactured by oil companies to replace the vegetable oil that Rudolph Diesel was originally using in his diesel engines

he refused to side with big oil and was found floating in the English Channel

they were then free to call their new fuel (they already had gasoline) Diesel Fuel

Alot of heating oil companies are working at integrating 5-20% with the new low sulphur and apparantly furnaces LOVE it with a much cleaner burn.

Ralph Day
6th March 2007, 12:01
Anyone have any experience (good or bad) with:

http://www.dieselsecret.com

Read up on their site but didn't order. I've only a light use tractor and generator. If they are to be believed i'll be looking at diesel for my next vehicle.

Ralph

Robert Harder
6th May 2007, 22:54
A couple of years ago a cars program on British TV publicised a new way of using vegetable oil as diesel fuel -- "just add a spoonful" of solvent.

The solvent was white spirit (mineral turpentine), with 3% added to the veg-oil to lower the viscosity and also to lower the flash point so the engine would start easier.

It raised a lot of interest among novices, and a lot of scepticism among experienced SVO users: "experimental at best" and "steer well clear" were among the more polite comments.

Then it became a matter of secret formulas with a franchised network of paid-up Local Agents selling the additives, mostly in Britain. Recent comment at the British-based vegoil-diesel mailing list:

"The often mentioned 3% mix of white spirit does nothing other than make you think your 'modified' fuel is doing no damage to your fuel pump." (Oct 2005)

A look-alike or maybe an off-shoot of the British operation started selling a "diesel secret energy" additive in the US market claiming to make high-performance diesel fuel from WVO for only one-sixth the price of petro-diesel fuel.

More details here from some folk who believed it and paid their money:
http://greasecar.com/forum_topicview.cfm?frmtopicID=3349

The recipe: mix WVO with 10% kerosene, 5% unleaded gasoline, a cetane boost additive and the secret ingredient, which as SVO users discovered turned out to be... xylol paint-stripper and moth balls, long touted as miles-per-gallon improvers for gasoline engines.

Maybe it even works, but again, for how long? Where are the long-term test-results for safe use of these chemicals in "almost any engine" as claimed? As one source rather kindly puts it: "Long-term durability and detailed exhaust emissions data is incomplete." The same comments still apply: "experimental at best" and "steer well clear".

Adding gasoline to veg-oil is a more recent trend, with some people using mixes of 10-20% unleaded gasoline/petrol to 80-90% veg-oil.

Robert Harder
6th May 2007, 22:58
I researched this a lot about 2years ago and decided against it from what I could gather online from people who had tried it the results were no better or worse than 10% diesel or kerosene and 5% regular unleaded gasoline without bothering with there "secret ingredient" which isn't much more than paint thinner and is such a small amount as to be useless, safest bet is a 2 tank heated fuel system